純美蘋果園
TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 4版 討論區 => 主题作者是: 桑特 于 2011-05-23, 周一 21:42:51
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在4E想用火焰法师的同学可参考一下这张14级的Genasi Mage，滥算不上，就是呈现一下正常DPR向法师应该有的水准
以下基本是群体攻击，AB为+19，打ref为主，个别为打fort，火抗可直接击穿（不管是10还是10000），碰火免可用Arc Lightning双属性攻击
at-will
Arc Lightning: 1d6+29
Scorching Burst: 1d6+29
encounter
Argent Rain: 1d10+29，领域（进入的怪10火伤）
Orbmaster's Incendiary Detonation: 1d6+31，击倒
Fireburst: 3d6+29
Frostburn: 3d6+34, 困难地形
Promise of Storm Arc Lightning: 1d6+2d8+29
daily:
Flaming Sphere: 2d6+1d4+56
Summon Magma Beast: 自主召唤兽，可当多打用
Summon Hell Hound: 自主召唤兽，同上
utility:
Shield: 直断+4AC，+4REF
Fire Shield: 10火抗，10寒抗，全遭遇近战打你吃2d6+6火伤
Blur: 全遭遇全防+2，对5格外的怪隐形
Burning Transformation: 全遭遇虚体化，免疫火焰，伤害+5，近战打你要吃11火伤
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XXX, level 14
Genasi, Mage, Master of Flame
Build: Evocation Mage
School of Magic: Evocation School
School of Magic: Pyromancy School
Elemental Manifestation: Stormsoul
Mage Cantrips: Suggestion
Mage Cantrips: Spook
Mage Cantrips: Light
Arcane Admixture Damage Type: Arcane Admixture Fire
Arcane Admixture Power: Arc Lightning
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit)
Themes: Order Adept
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 22, Con 11, Dex 13, Int 22, Wis 13, Cha 9.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 10, Dex 12, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 8.
AC: 28 Fort: 29 Reflex: 28 Will: 28
HP: 89 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 22
FEATS
Level 1: Staff Expertise
Level 2: Superior Implement Training (Accurate Staff)
Level 4: Elemental Empowerment
Level 6: Implement Focus (Staff)
Level 8: Unarmored Agility
Level 10: Improved Defenses
Level 11: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 12: Arcane Admixture
Level 14: Arcane Familiar
POWERS
Wizard at-will 1: Arc Lightning
Wizard at-will 1: Scorching Burst
Wizard encounter 1: Orbmaster's Incendiary Detonation
Wizard daily 1: Flaming Sphere
Wizard utility 2: Shield
Wizard daily 5: Summon Magma Beast
Wizard utility 6: Fire Shield
Wizard encounter 7: Fireburst
Wizard daily 9: Summon Hell Hound
Wizard utility 10: Blur
Wizard encounter 13: Frostburn
ITEMS
Spellbook, Accurate staff of Ruin +3, Battle Harness Githweave Armor +3, Brooch of Vitality +3 , Khyber Shard of the Fiery Depth (paragon tier), Orb of Nimble Thoughts +2, Frozen Whetstone (heroic tier) (6)
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Arc Lightning<--這招出自哪 :em012
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Heroes of the Fallen Lands
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法师威武。 称霸控场界的同时，不忘抢众打手职业的生意。
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我个人是偏好机关人血法师那种大范围高伤害强状态的控场。火法还是咬得太紧了点，种族也基本绑定元素人和提夫林
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quarterstaff可以当成两头都是staff的法器？
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quarterstaff可以當成兩頭都是staff的法器？
14 級取了 Staff Fighting 的原因吧...
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quarterstaff可以當成兩頭都是staff的法器？
14 級取了 Staff Fighting 的原因吧...
不過想了想, 即使可以把 staff 變成雙武器使, 那依然不是雙法器, 所以也許行不通.
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quarterstaff可以當成兩頭都是staff的法器？
14 級取了 Staff Fighting 的原因吧...
不過想了想, 即使可以把 staff 變成雙武器使, 那依然不是雙法器, 所以也許行不通.
官网在线CB上测试了下，学Arcane Implement Proficiency (light blade)后拿双头剑装备时Dual Implement Spellcaster是生效的，同理推过来被Staff Fighting变成双头且带副手特性的staff应该也有效？
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CB 甚麼時候能作為規則判定的基準了 :em005
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/me 表示自己只看懂了命中里的：+7等级+6智力+3主手（少了3？）；伤害里的：+6力量+6智力+3主手+3副手（少12？）
/me 于是掩面而走
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大家得不出定论时去看一下CB也是一个参考嘛 :em019
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反正我觉得双头法器这个概念很诡异。CB貌似也没有把quarterstaff归入法器？
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很多按武器附魔的quarterstaff能当staff用是确定的
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Staff Fightning讓quarterstaff可以當雙頭武器用, 其中一端有off-hand和defensive特性
那雙頭武器 視為 雙手各拿一把武器 + 武器當法器用 = 雙手各拿一把法器 !!
很多人都是這樣用的... 不是只有CB (還是那很多人都是受CB影響!?)
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應該是誤導了. 武器和法器在很多方面都是獨立的, 能拼在一起用已經是特例 (雖然奧法使用者也許習慣了). 以下是客服回答:
The feat Staff Fighting only changes the weapon properties, not the implement properties of the weapon. As such when the wizard is using the staff as an implement it is still a single handed implement, however when the wizard uses it as a weapon it is a double weapon. Because it still one implement this feat will not count as a second implement for the Dual Implement Spellcaster feat.
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很好很好，多谢羊咩的回复……
于是把这一段也记下来加到自己的hr里。哼唧~~
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很多按武器附魔的quarterstaff能当staff用是确定的
我觉得那是CB的bug，因为quarterstaff所属的武器类目是staff，所以CB就误认为quarterstaff可以当法器staff了。而且CB应该没有Accurate quarterstaff吧？
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很多按武器附魔的quarterstaff能當staff用是確定的
我覺得那是CB的bug，因為quarterstaff所屬的武器類目是staff，所以CB就誤認為quarterstaff可以當法器staff了。而且CB應該沒有Accurate quarterstaff吧？
對. Quarterstaff 非 staff. 規則上白版 Quarterstaff 和白版 Staff (implement) 是兩件東西, 不過後者可以當前者用.
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魔法杖可以當法器用也是已經確立的, 有甚麼問題嗎?
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没什么，我只是说quarterstaff的附魔可以给staff上
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其實 CB 也還是有不少問題...
/me 看著拿鐮劍可以 +10 的斬頭...
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最终证明还是传统的心灵系血法比较强力，无论是控场还是伤害
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XXX, level 14
Warforged, Mage, Blood Mage
Build: Nethermancy Mage
School of Magic: Illusionist School
School of Magic: Nethermancy School
Mage Cantrips: Suggestion
Mage Cantrips: Spook
Mage Cantrips: Ghost Sound
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit)
Themes: Order Adept
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 16, Dex 14, Int 24, Wis 14, Cha 11.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 10, Dex 13, Int 18, Wis 13, Cha 10.
AC: 29 Fort: 26 Reflex: 29 Will: 30
HP: 91 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 22
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +23, Nature +14, Dungeoneering +14, Religion +19
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +9, Bluff +9, Diplomacy +8, Endurance +12, Heal +9, History +14, Insight +9, Intimidate +11, Perception +9, Stealth +15, Streetwise +7, Thievery +9, Athletics +6
FEATS
Level 1: Staff Expertise
Level 2: Superior Implement Training (Accurate staff)
Level 4: Enlarge Spell
Level 6: Implement Focus (Staff)
Level 8: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 10: Improved Defenses
Level 11: Psychic Lock
Level 12: Unarmored Agility
Level 14: Durable
POWERS
Wizard at-will 1: Magic Missile
Wizard at-will 1: Winged Horde
Wizard at-will 1: Illusory Ambush
Wizard encounter 1: Twilight Falls
Wizard encounter 1 Spellbook: Grasping Shadows
Wizard daily 1: Wizard's Fury
Wizard daily 1 Spellbook: Phantom Chasm
Wizard utility 2: Shield
Wizard utility 2 Spellbook: Mystical Debris
Wizard encounter 3: Icy Rays
Wizard encounter 3 Spellbook: Hypnotic Pattern
Wizard daily 5: Stinking Cloud
Wizard daily 5 Spellbook: Visions of Avarice
Wizard utility 6: Summon Iron Cohort
Wizard utility 6 Spellbook: Emerald Eye
Wizard encounter 7: Twist of Space
Wizard encounter 7 Spellbook: Enemies Abound
Wizard daily 9: Mirage Arcana
Wizard daily 9 Spellbook: Mordenkainen's Guardian Hound
Wizard utility 10: Blur
Wizard utility 10 Spellbook: Mass Resistance
Wizard encounter 13: Dark Gathering
Wizard encounter 13 Spellbook: Mesmeric Hold
ITEMS
Spellbook, Accurate staff of Ruin +3, Battle Harness Githweave Armor +3, Brooch of Vitality +3, Headband of Intellect (heroic tier), Resplendent Gloves(heroic tier), Belt of Vim (heroic tier), Orb of Nimble Thoughts +2, Siberys Shard of the Mage (heroic tier)
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沒什麼，我只是說quarterstaff的附魔可以給staff上
噢. 我以為是, 武器附魔可以上在 quarterstaff 上, 然後這 quarterstaff 可以當 staff 用, 不過大家都省略了?
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Build: Nethermancy Mage
School of Magic: Illusionist School
School of Magic: Nethermancy School
Mage Cantrips: Suggestion
Mage Cantrips: Spook
Mage Cantrips: Ghost Sound
請問這個是!? (還有... 是那來的 :em010)
對這個Build有什麼特別的效果嗎?
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Build: Nethermancy Mage
School of Magic: Illusionist School
School of Magic: Nethermancy School
Mage Cantrips: Suggestion
Mage Cantrips: Spook
Mage Cantrips: Ghost Sound
請問這個是!? (還有... 是那來的 :em010)
對這個Build有什麼特別的效果嗎?
幽影学派Nethermancy School【Heroes of Shadow】
学徒Apprentice
收益：任何被你奥术幽影学派威能命中的生物，他的敌人若距离他远于2格，则视为对他拥有遮蔽，直到你下回合结束
专家Expert
收益：你在威吓和隐秘检定上得到+2加值
大师Master
收益：若你对一个生物拥有任何程度的遮蔽，则对其有战斗优势
其实可以穿那件打中有CA的怪就变成遮蔽的皮甲，然后接着全场CA，再群轰，再遮蔽，再CA...